Insect and Disease Identification Thread

The two species offered for an ID above are in a different Subfamily of buprestid beetles, and in Genus Chrysobothris (per the graphic link), rather than in the correct Genus Chalcophora.

The.tbg9b beetle is a Western Sculptured Pine Borer and is very common. Chalcophora angulicollis.

This Pine Borer is a pest of various conifer trees, rather than a pest of fruit trees. If they are numerous at your place and you have some ornamental conifer trees in your yard, they may be a pest for you.

What caused me to question the initial ID is the raised, bumpy nature of the black markings (sculpted, per the common name), rather than the charcoal-like flat markings of the Pacific or Appletree Borers.

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Thank you both for the info. Whichever species of borer, I think Iā€™d rather not have them around my trees.

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Sorry for cross-posting, but hoping to get an ID so I can keep an eye out for the adult insect. This bored into new loquat leaves, killing the leaves in the process:

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In the loquat topic, you mentioned inchworm-like movement. Your larva does not have an inchworm (geometrid moth) leg arrangement that is 3 pair near the head, no legs mid-segments, and two pair near the rear end. If your larva has some body segments that have no legs, it is a caterpillar; if there are legs on all segments, it is a fly larva. It looks like a caterpillar to me, but I am not familiar with it.

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It seemed to use the rear pair of legs like a pincher to hold itself in place, then would release the rest of the body as it changed direction, holding just with the rear until it had a good grip with the rest, then it crawled more normally using all the legs.

I didnā€™t take note of whether it had segments without legs, but if I see another one Iā€™ll stick it in a ventilated jar to see what it becomes.

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Geometrid (inchworm, loopers) caterpillars literally arch (loop) their midsection way high when moving.

ā€¦stick it, along with some soil, debris, a leaf or two, and some small twigs for climbing.

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Photographed this today - mottled umber (Erannis defoliaria) (Geometridae)

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^ Image precisely shows the geometer leg arrangement and body movement I described above.

Note that we do not have this Erannis species here in the USA, and that the species name ā€œdefoliariaā€ should cause alarm in gardeners.

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Yes, ominous name. Although, so far it hasnā€™t been a problem for me. This is the first time Iā€™ve noticed it on my fruit trees.

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Apple leaf discoloration.

2 months in the ground, cider multigraft (from Raintree), only the Grainwinkle & Hewes are showing this. The Master Gardeners here in Reno arenā€™t to be heard from, Raintree is like ā€œnot our problem.ā€ I asked before and someone thought mosaic . . . but heck, I canā€™t tell. More of it is coming; the Hewes as a new leaf shooting with it on it. I do not think this is a good thing.





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Can someone weigh in and tell me what they believe this disease is? I forgot to actually ask in original post. Thank you very much!

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@Momlongerwalk

It does appear to be chlorosis which in this case appears to be caused by apple mosaic virus. Chlorosis can also be caused by stress. Apple mosaic does not have a cure. Apple Mosaic Virus | USU

This will help you to understand the virus better. Please watch the video. Grainwinkle and Hewes express symptoms but not all apples do. Hewes is a tree used to detect apple mosaic by professionals. If i want to ensure a new orchard with thousands of trees is free of apple mosaic i would graft hewes to the tree i wanted to propagate as @SkillCult mentions in the video below. Then watch for symptoms. The fact hewes shows the pattern is why it is so useful. Some apples have symptoms and others do not.

Not all apples express infection that have it. This is unfortunately a very common disease Apple mosaic virus - Australian Apple and Pear IPDM | Australian Apple and Pear IPDM .Usually the virus is spread by grafting but not always. As an example, a hawthorn could be 2 feet away that has the illness and if roots overlap both trees get mosaic.

Before everyone reading this assumes your trees have apple mosaic remember chlorosis in itself is very common. Here is a definition "yellowing of the leaves is known as chlorosis and it is a common problem in all kinds of different plants.

What causes chlorosis can vary but the good news is that it is reversible, so by identifying the issue that is causing it you can address the problem.

One of the most common causes of chlorosis is over-watering, which can saturate the roots and prevent the plant from breathing."

https://www.katc.com/news/over-watering-may-be-killing-your-plants#:~:text=One%20of%20the%20most%20common,.%20donā€™t%20water%20it.

As an example iron chlorosis does not have the same pattern displayed from apple mosaic chlorosis. Mosaic is unique though plants under stress may appear to be infected for a short time when they are not What is Iron Chlorosis and What Causes it? | Forestry | Extension | USU

" What is Iron Chlorosis and What Causes it?

by Michael Kuhns, Extension Forestry Specialist, and Rich Koenig, Extension Soils Specialist

What Is It?

Iron chlorosis is a yellowing of plant leaves caused by iron deficiency that affects many desirable landscape plants in Utah. The primary symptom of iron deficiency is interveinal chlorosis, the development of a yellow leaf with a network of dark green veins. In severe cases, the entire leaf turns yellow or white and the outer edges may scorch and turn brown as the plant cells die. It is common for an individual branch or one half of a tree to be chlorotic while the remainder of the tree appears normal. In some areas vegetation from the entire landscape may be affected, while in others only the most susceptible plants show deficiency symptoms.

Yellow leaves indicate a lack of chlorophyll, the green pigment responsible for photosynthesis (sugar production) in plants. Any reduction in chlorophyll during the growing season can reduce plant growth and vigor. In addition, chlorotic plants often produce smaller fruits of poor quality with bitter flavor. In severe cases, or if iron chlorosis persists over several years, individual limbs or the entire plant may die.

Crabapple with chlorosis

What Causes It?

The causes of iron chlorosis are complex and not entirely understood. Many reactions govern iron availability and make iron chemistry in soil complex. Iron chlorosis frequently occurs in soils that are alkaline (pH greater than 7.0) and that contain lime; conditions that are common in Utah. Even though there typically is plenty of iron in these soils, the high soil pH causes chemical reactions that make the iron solid and unavailable to plant roots. Such iron will be tied up indefinitely unless soil conditions change. This explains why rusty nails or iron shavings do not correct iron deficiency: iron released by these materials immediately forms solids that are unavailable to plants.

Iron deficiency and chlorosis is aggravated by cool soil temperatures and conditions that restrict air movement into soil: plastic sheet mulching, compaction, and water-saturated conditions. Chlorosis is often more severe where topsoil has been removed exposing lime enriched subsoil. Examples are eroded soils or soils subjected to land leveling for new housing developments.

Plants that are native to high pH (alkaline) soils usually donā€™t suffer from iron chlorosis, either because they tend to be very efficient in their use of iron or they can obtain more iron from the soil than non-native or poorly adapted plants. Unfortunately, most of the landscape plants we use here are non-native and many of our landscape trees are native to areas where soil pH is below 6. Such plants grown in high pH soils not only may show iron chlorosis; they may also have chlorosis due to poor availability of other minerals, particularly manganese.

Maple tree with severe chlorosis

Note: See Preventing and Treating Iron Chlorosis in Trees and Shrubs for information on chlorosis treatment."

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@Momlongerwalk, Iā€™m not too knowledgeable here, but look up pictures for Apple Mosaic Virus or Apple Chlorotic Leaf Spot. There is resemblance to both. Since viruses are spread via grafting, each graft in multigraft tree has chance to bring a virus. Viruses also are said to affect cultivars in different ways, so it may explain why some grafts exhibit the symptoms while others do not.

I donā€™t know how Raintree checks for viruses, but as a customer who pay good money, I would be very unsatisfied if they sold me a tree with virus.

Hereā€™s a link with some info about apple viruses
https://treefruit.wsu.edu/web-article/viral-diseases/

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I would feel comfortable using any variety to test for AMV that Iā€™ve noted to be extra susceptible, like many in that video. I indexed almost all of my trees this year with a seedling of mine nicknamed Ice Princess, because it shows it strongly and I had a lot of them. I put it onto a seedling last year that appeared to possibly have it, which surprised me, because it is a seedling and the disease doesnā€™t transfer through seed as far as Ivā€™e ever seen. Iā€™ve grown a lot of trees now from seed off infected trees and itā€™s not a problem. It turned out that the tree is showing clorosis or something else, because the ice princess leaves on it look fine. It really did not take me long to throw a scion on every tree and I now wish I had done it sooner. I think AMV should be talked about more. I have not seen it to affect tree growth and production much myself, but we donā€™t want it to become a lot more common. I have not seen it spread from tree to tree yet, only by grafting, but of course it ought to be possible through root grafting if nothing else.

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@SkillCult

Thanks for posting the video it makes it very easy for everyone to understand the virus.

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Local Master Gardener group (who fields the extension agentā€™s replies for home gardens). Notice the repeat of at least one link you all put up:
"Your apple tree leaf shows symptoms of a mosaic virus, but positive identification might require tissue testing. The fact that you have a newly planted grafted tree and only two of the grafts are showing symptoms is a strong clue, however. If it were a nutrient problem, one would expect all the varieties to show the same symptom. The virus is known to be transmitted from infected scions or root stock, and all apples are susceptible to some degree. Here are some relevant links.

You might still get fruit, although production will probably be diminished. Apple mosaic is not spread by insects or pollen. There really isnā€™t any treatment beyond removing the tree.

Did this tree come certified virus-free? If so, you should call this symptom to the attention of the nursery/grower."

It is disappointing that Raintree is not at least interested in what seems like they may have sold an infected tree. Perhaps the state inspection service who certifies them for interstate shipping would be?

I have the Master Gardenerā€™s response; today I go to the local Uniā€™s ag fair and will check with them, too, then itā€™s back to Raintree to get my $$ back. I would not order from them again no matter what at this point, but if they give me $$ back I wonā€™t go so hard with social media. I mean, they do not guarantee virus-free stock, so my bad.

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Gooseberry sawfly - Nematus ribesii devastating my white currants

Apple leaf sawfly - Pristiphora maesta, on apple tree, posing :slightly_smiling_face:

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Re caterpillarsā€¦these are Western Tent Caterpillars (I think more specifically Fall Webworm) held at bay by my duct tape covered with Tanglefoot.
This yearā€™s invasion has been the bane of rural Western Washington fruit tree and berry growers.

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